Membership

Submitted by Rookie on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 20:20
A topic for people to discuss membership. Are you a member of one club, and want to support more than one? How do I join one club, yet still support another? Are you a member of a predominantly flat water club and want to do ocean paddling? How do you do both without people questioning your alliance?
Don't care about clubs and just want to have fun paddling?
Try posting something here ...
Members only
IOP grew phenomenally in it’s first 2 years of existence, too fast, as a committee we were new to this, we were running around like headless chooks and we tripped over ourselves. The result was we failed our members miserably.
Last year Ash Nesbit called up all the old members and said we either shut shop or we pull our finger out and really try to make this work. One of the things we discussed as a new committee was “why come back to IOP?”
The member only races were our idea of giving back to our members and proving what we can do as a club, these races are free to our members and are basically our way of saying thank you for your show of faith in signing up and trusting us to get it right this time.
That said, the free races will continue only for the remainder of this season. IOP is picking up the cost of water safety, at a minimum of $300:00 per event for the shorter paddles. We are using the money IOP made in our glory days, so we are using our members money on our members. If it wasn’t for the water safety aspect, we would open these paddles to everyone.
From next season, we will have learnt a lot more, licked a few more wounds and will come back better, smarter and stronger.
From next season, the races will be open to all and there will be a fee for all to cover water safety.
From next season we will work hard to find sponsors for the races so that we can award prizes.
So we are roughing it out with our members this season, for them it’s free with hiccups this year, so if you want free, with no prizes, just bragging rights, join now, if not, we honestly look forward to welcoming you to our paddles next season as either a member or non-member.
Members Only - cheap
I joined IOP's recently and as I am a member of another club it cost me $30, 2 bottles of red.
So far I have competed in 3 races and plan on doing the next 4 (?) so you do the maths but in anyone's book it is very cheap and money well spent for the pleasure of participating in organised events, meeting other paddlers and learning more about paddling.
I participate in almost every event that is held and they all cost, but getting out on the water and paddling/racing is what I enjoy and I am very happy to pay for it.(it also explains why I have so many boats)
thanks to anyone who organizes an event/race I will come along and support you.
Membership Whoas
I guess the IOP are trying to make sure that everyone doing one of their races or downwinds is covered under their insurance loopholes.
When I was Ski Captain at the local Surf Club I was advised by the Surf Sports contact at SLSWA to get everyone that joined us for our regular paddling sessions to become a member.
I think it was as much for their own protection as ours because if something did go horribly wrong then the club, myself and State Centre would all have been at risk of legal recourse.
We often think that a disclaimer would be enough in these instances but if someone has a good lawyer and they mean business the disclaimer isn't worth much to the organisers.
When you consider it we're willing to pay upwards of $30 to do one race such as the Bridge to Bridge where the bulk of us particularly us mid-packers don't stand a chance of winning a prize and we get little in the way of T-Shirts or hats (do we really want these material acknowledgements anyway).
As was mentioned today on Facebook, let's support the sport that we have so much passion for and do the whole series, don't pick and choose between the conditions of one race versus another, do them all and challenge your ability.
If I can do it with these lame wings of mine so can you.
Cheers
Mav
members
in another watersport, things such as three races then you must consider becoming a member. I guess it is to do with freeloading. Always great to have visitors and they should be encouraged, not penalised. Don't know about these "members only " races.
Members only?
I'll kick this one off, with an interesting development.
I'm a member of a club that is keen for paddlers of other clubs (or 'come try' guests) to participate in our training, events and ... well just be part of our club. I guess we are lucky that our club is relatively new, and we are not inundated by people wanting to take advantage of us. We seem to enjoy a happy balance between club participation, and guest/invitational participation. We hope that people will come and see what we do, like what we do, and subsequently may join us or tell others about us.
I have also attended other clubs as a guest. Sometimes on my own, other times as a guest by invitation of an existing club member. This has allowed me to participate in alternative disciplines, meet experienced paddlers in other disciplines, and in general broaden my horizons as a paddler. I have appreciated such attendance, and also assumed that if I were to keep attending as a guest, I be obliged to join as a member.
I have seen events advertised as 'members only'. I don't understand this. Why would a club demand membership to participate? Perhaps such clubs have had issues with too many 'free loaders'. Perhaps there are insurance implications. Perhaps there is a minimum competency they are trying to enforce.
Have you come across this before as a participant or as an organiser? What are your thoughts?
Membership bleat
Yes I know what you refer to. Infact I have sent an email to the club you refer to. I received a response and they are looking at the viability of charging a nominal fee ( which has been done before).
An extract of the email is detailed below:-
Morning there.
I just was curious whether the standpoint of club races are only for members to participate holds true…as mentioned in the newsletter.
It mentions To be eligible to start you must be a financial member of the club
I know of a number of paddlers from Ascot, Swan and other surf clubs that would love to join in the races too. I’m surprised at this stand-point as many of the ocean/river clubs actively encourage non members to participate given they raise the profile of the club and ultimately may join when seeing the open armed welcome received by the club. Having these “non members” only adds to the experience pool and will only benefit the members given they will have a greater pool of quality paddlers to race against.
Why not charge a nominal $10 to race?
In addition, there are paddlers outside of the Perth areas who find it hard to justify being a member of club that is not in their immediate area, but still would like to participate in some of the races
Looking forward to hearing back from you guys
Hi Rookie At Swan Canoe Club
Hi Rookie
At Swan Canoe Club we've had these discussions because of the insurance implications if a guest paddler is injured or worse during one of our advertised/organised regular club events. I'm not currently part of the committee, so can't advise the current legal position, but previously the issue was resolved by guest paddlers mainly visiting for our friday evening time trials) paying a $5 registration which somehow covered them under the club's insurance policy. I'll check with the committee and let you know what the current status is - although Roland would know as he's the paddlebash coord.
re 'members only': Swannies welcome guest paddlers from other clubs at our weekly time trial evening (which, btw, has just shifted to Tues from Fri night; Fri night will be dedicated Avon training). In fact, we want more more more paddlers on the water with us, but one theory is that few flat-water paddlers want to launch their slinky k1's into the often-challenging waters down Fremantle way (boat wash - good Avon training). For organised trips that involve a cost - Nanga weekend, for example - non-members pay a higher amount (and provide certification of whitewater competency).
My own view is that it's great to have paddlers from other clubs come to participate in our regular paddles. However, I've come across a few paddlers who aren't a member of ANY club - surf club or canoe club – but arrive to paddle simply because they don't want to paddle alone, and because they then want to hang around and use the facilities (have a beer on the balcony over the river). Are these paddlers exploitative freeloaders? Probably, but we'd hope that eventually they'll see the greater value in joining the club and integrate more fully into the wider paddling community.
Also, re your Membership post: Swan has members who enjoy a variety of paddling genre: slalom (very strong juniors cohort); wildwater (Avon mainly, although some DR/marathon paddlers); ocean racing; sea-kayaking and more laid-back social paddles on the river. I think the majority of the membership are sea kayakers and social (non-competitive) paddlers.